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Pity the man who has to say no

I'm sorry, butPhil: Following on from Candice looking at things from the literary agent point of view, I thought I’d relate a recent tale along those lines, one that will hopefully provide some guidance to anyone hoping to see their name at the top of a magazine article.

One of the jobs I have is editor of an on-line model railway magazine. It’s basically an edited letters page with added news and other articles. We don’t have a budget for submissions but that doesn’t always put people off. Our ranking on Google is pretty good and as a first place to see your name over an article, it’s an excellent choice. You might not get paid, but it could be a stepping stone to greater things*.

The first and most important rule when approaching any publisher is:

Write what they are looking for.

Don’t pester Motorcycle News with 5000 words on growing pansies. It doesn’t matter how good a piece you’ve written, they really, really, aren’t interested.

In the book world, if your publisher specialises in sickly romance, your mix of Andy McNab and vampires, probably won’t spend much time between slush pile and bin.

We have been very careful to send our manuscript to agnets who have worked in the same genre in the past. We know they aren’t likely to be looking to make a hard job any more difficult by looking for a news set of contacts, even if they do hold the best book ever writen in their hands.

Anyway, a few weeks ago I received an e-mail from a lady who wondered if I would be interested in a piece for the mag. I replied saying I would be but pointing out we had no contributors budget. She wasn’t phased by this.

A couple of weeks later, my in-box was home to a really well written and interesting article. At 2000 words long, it was a good length for on-line reading. None of it had been obviously lifted from the web, or if it had, the re-write was sufficiently good to move from plagiarism to proper research.

The only problem was that it was a short history of the hobby, obviously aimed at people who knew next to nothing about it.

So, here I was with a very good quality lesson on sucking eggs that it was proposed I present to the thousands of grannies who read my mag (they aren’t grannies, I’m using a metaphor, stick with me). I looked long and hard at the piece. It was good but no matter how I thought about it, the fit with my mag was poor. I could have run it and just let it go but I knew the letters page would have been full of moaning or people wondering what the heck I was doing.

Eventually, I wrote a nice (I hope) note rejecting the offer. My suggestion was that it needed to go to a general interest magazine such as “Readers Digest” where the fit would be as good as the last piece in a jigsaw. I never heard anything more.

It’s not fun saying no, but sometimes you have to do it.


*Writing for free is fine as long as it’s a stepping stone. The trick is to learn when to stop. (Hint: Quickly)

Membership of a special interest society such as for your hobby means there will be a newsletter editor always on the lookout for free words and this is a great place to start. Look to move on to submitting to places where you get paid pretty quickly though, at least if you aspire to turning writing in to a job. Be warned, the world is full of people advertising great opportunities to write for “up-and-coming” websites where the only thing on offer is exposure. Trust me, real editors are not cruising the web looking for random writers. They have enough to deal with looking at stuff sent to them in the post.


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A big blow

No entryPhil: After our excellent Monday cake and planning session, I am armed with the three chapters and a finely honed query letter ready to do battle with the literary establishment. A shiny laser printer awaits to print our efforts in the best possible quality.

So, I am left to decide which lucky publisher will be first to get their hands on our potential best-seller. By mutual agreement, we’ll start with Tindal Street Press in Birmingham. They are a Brummie based publisher and so more likely to be open to a story set outside the capital. Their raison d’etre is “to find writers of national and international significance from places other than London and the South East – where nearly all of the English publishing industry is based” which sounds promising. More importantly, they were the only ones who commented on our previous submission, a comment about us being able to write in our chosen genre that dealt us a great dollop of encouragement.

Thinking I better check how they like to receive submissions, I check the website and find this:

Tindal Street Press are no longer accepting submissions for publication. If you have recently submitted to us, we are very sorry to say that we are no longer able to consider your manuscript. We wish you the best of luck elsewhere.


Checking the rest of the site, it seems that Tindal Street Press is part-funded by Arts Council England and Birmingham City Council who presumably have other things to spend money on now. It was taken over in 2012 by Profile Books Ltd who only accept submissions via literary agents.

There is some irony in our path to publishing being hampered by the same recession that got us writing in the first place.

Oh well, I better break out the Writers and Artists Yearbook, buy some cake (not the “Contemporary Cakes” from the Co-op as these were too stodgy) and see if Candice can find some time in her schedule for us to plan our campaign.

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